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redpbass	Traveling Speed	Lead	[-]
Posts: 20 (03/11/08 09:43:25) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Tags : None Ok, I must know the airspeed of an unladen-- wait... What I really need to know is this: 1) Average distance a man in good shape can walk in a day while not hurrying and also while hurrying. On a normal road, or going cross country. 2) Average distance a man on a horse can cover in a day while not hurrying and also while hurrying. Normal road or cross country. 3) average distance a wagon pulled by horses or mules or whatever can go in a day along a decent road 4) a website that for some reason lists such things would be greatly appreciated. This is all so that I can get some realism in my stories...your own personal experience with such things would be of great help as well, since I need as much info on this type of thing as possible. I don't need olympic sprinter type information, just what the average in-shape person can do. I've looked all over the place, but I'm beginning to think I'm not searching with the right terms.
Vortex Duck		#1	[-]
Posts: 150 (03/11/08 10:16:48) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Hmm, this is a difficult one. Predictably, Wikipedia has something to say on the basics of the first two (not hurrying, and normal road): "The league most frequently expresses the distance a person, or a horse, can walk in 1 hour of time (usually about 3.5 miles or 5.5 kilometres)." Multiply that by however many hours you mean by a day, (probably about 10 or 12) and you have your number. But different people have different opinions on how long a "day" should be. Of course then all you have to do is adjust it a bit, give or take a couple of miles for hurried walking, or cross country, et cetera. By the way, the average cruising airspeed velocity of an unladen European Swallow is roughly 11 meters per second, or 24 miles an hour.
anacharis		#2	[-]
Posts: 876 (03/11/08 14:58:15) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	While this is doubtless of no help whatsoever, the answer to the second one is actually 'Significantly less than the same man could cover on mooseback.' I know this because I have moose cavalry in my conworld, and I did the research. They've got less tolerance for some types of adverse conditions and they spook easily, but they can outpace a horse. As I said, this is no help whatsoever, but you gotta admit, moose cavalry would be made of awesome. Especially since the only people to have actually tried it are Imperial Sweden and the USSR. I mean, my conpeople are sort of based on the Haudenosaunee, but come on, Communist Moose Cavalry. Seriously, we'd all be speaking Russian if they had just implemented that idea on a larger scale. Or possibly Swedish. Xirataacab apkixámuab nok muabxáki nok urtilab nok hkatilab tilabuvyotilab nok tilabaotsulunuo palabanki nok tsaazibigoai, amuacabanki palabankabxiramuab. Nok tsaazibigoaitsababormuab. Nok tsaazibigoaináabnóxiraoztaab
redpbass		#3	[-]
Posts: 21 (03/11/08 17:14:16) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Vortex Duck: I didn't know that about a league...I can work with this. Thanks for the info. Anacharis: Moose Cavalry? That's so weird I wish I had thought of it first. Seems like an awful long way to fall if you slip off though :p
Wolfgang Kaiser		#4	[-]
Posts: 172 (03/11/08 18:53:50) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	1. Walking on a normal road = ~50 km; Walking across country = ~40 km; Hurrying on a normal road = ~55 km (rest time also increases); Hurrying across country = ~45 km 2. Riding on a normal road = ~80 km; Riding across country = ~60 km; Riding hard on a normal road = ~90 km; Riding hard across country = ~70 km 3. Normal wagon on a normal road = ~60 km 4. No clue. I worked it out sketchily with simple math, but I'm sure I missed a ton of important factors. A site that listed stuff like this would be pretty damn useful for writers of fantasy and historical fiction, I agree. Also, you may never tell anyone else about moose cavalry, anacharis. As a patriotic Canadian, I can say no more on the subject (except that you may all be speaking Canadian in a few years if we can just get our damn breeding program up to scratch)... ~ Wolfgang Kaiser, Zeppelin Vigilante ~ "Kidnapping Nubile Victorian Ladies Since 1867"
redpbass		#5	[-]
Posts: 22 (03/13/08 17:43:12) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Wolfgang Kaiser wrote: 1. Walking on a normal road = ~50 km; Walking across country = ~40 km; Hurrying on a normal road = ~55 km (rest time also increases); Hurrying across country = ~45 km 2. Riding on a normal road = ~80 km; Riding across country = ~60 km; Riding hard on a normal road = ~90 km; Riding hard across country = ~70 km 3. Normal wagon on a normal road = ~60 km 4. No clue. I worked it out sketchily with simple math, but I'm sure I missed a ton of important factors. A site that listed stuff like this would be pretty damn useful for writers of fantasy and historical fiction, I agree. Thanks for the info. Btw, where did you get the numbers for the wagon?
Wolfgang Kaiser		#6	[-]
Posts: 179 (03/13/08 20:48:36) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Common sense. I'm assuming this is the sort of wagon one has to walk beside, in which case going much faster than walking speed is absurd. If we're talking the sort of wagon you can ride on, then I have no clue. It would depend on the weight of the cargo, to a certain extent. Anywhere from 70 to 80, I'd say. ~ Wolfgang Kaiser, Zeppelin Vigilante ~ "Kidnapping Nubile Victorian Ladies Since 1867"
redpbass		#7	[-]
Posts: 23 (03/14/08 05:24:19) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Ah, gotcha. The kind of wagon I was thinking of when I read that was like a big freight wagon, and I'd always heard that they were very slow. The only wagons I've been able to find specific info for were the ones from the wagon trains during the whole 'western expansion' thing in the 1800s, and the source said they averaged about 15 miles a day. Granted, that seems incredibly slow, but the numbers were a lot different, that's why I was wandering. Then again, the conditions were vastly different so I guess they would practically be going offroad since there weren't many actual roads there at the time...eh, whatever.
Wolfgang Kaiser		#8	[-]
Posts: 181 (03/14/08 19:20:41) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Ohhh! See, I was thinking a small wagon pulled by a single beast - practically a cart, now that I think on it. A bigger one would probably be much slower. ~ Wolfgang Kaiser, Zeppelin Vigilante ~ "Kidnapping Nubile Victorian Ladies Since 1867"
CrusadersUnderwear		#9	[-]
Posts: 425 (03/16/08 08:41:18) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Random Fact: the human body is designed to walk 10 miles per day if its in good shape. From the day I'm born till the day I die, the only side I'm on is my own!

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